everybody talks about ronald reagan -- ronald reagan did not shrink the size of government. government was much bigger when reagan left office than when he started. there is this idea that is created out there that does not match the reality. when you get down to local communities where we do compromise, where we make the tough policy decisions, then yes, sometimes you can not do it. >> we are out of time. we're committed to sticking to its schedule. [applause] thank you all for coming. we will see you elsewhere during the day. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012] >> see the first of the presidential debates, next wednesday, live on c-span, c- span radio, an online at c- span.org. watch and engage. next, political fact checkers look at statements coming from the obama and running campaigns. then, a debate between the u.s. house candidates in california's 7 -- seventh congressional district. later, from the "texas tribune" festival, a debate between san antonio mayor julian castro and senate candidate